They finally did the right thing.
By Phillip
Floria
I was surprised when I opened my
email and read the letters from Curt and John Visco. You may not remember
either one so I will bring you up to date with the short version.
Curt was the unhappy owner of a 2002
American Iron Horse which set him back $28,000, before he could get it broke
in, it caught fire, and then a whole list of problems cropped up. He sent us an
email outlining his problem with the dealer and American Iron Horse, which you
can read on our Praise and Complaints
Page.
I then received an email from John
Visco then the owner of Easy Riders of Virginia Beach, he was upset that we put
Curts complaint on the web, and he expressed some concern about how it
might be mistaken for his dealership Easy Riders of Virginia Beach.
I answered Johns email and I
did acknowledge the possibility someone could be misled to think it was
Johns store and I put a disclaimer on the page for him. Then I challenged
him to intervene with American Iron Horse on Curts behalf. I didnt
think at the time he would. The long and the short of it, John did just that,
he rose to the challenge and now Curt is riding a new motorcycle whether or not
it was Johns intervention, he did offer to help, even though this was not
his customer. Curt, if you haven't read the email is from OMAHA, NE,
not exactly the local area.
John has very strong feelings about
American Iron Horse, he was firmly standing behind the product he was selling
then and does now at Iron Core Custom Motorcycles (formerly
Easyriders of Va Beach)
IronCoreCustom.com 757-631-1443. John was adamant about
AIH's great customer relations and was sure the situation would be taken care
of, and it finally did.
I think regardless of what John is
selling I think you will find in him, a dealer who not only believes in the
motorcycle he is selling, but will take the extra steps to insure his customers
enjoy their ownership experience.
Read the original emails on the "Praise and Complaints Page" and then read
the follow on emails here, and you can draw you own conclusions.
Curt: I read your letter concerning your
Ironhorse in the BikerEnews.com for Hampton Roads. Would you please elaborate
more with the name of the dealer, IronHorse model and year, and any other
information that could help me understand the nature of your problem. I am the
IronHorse dealer for Hampton Roads Virginia, and even though I am not anywhere
near your home, maybe I can provide some help to resolve your problem.
John Visco Iron Core Custom Motorcycles (formerly Easyriders of
Va Beach) IronCoreCustom.com viscorp@aol.com 757-631-1443
They finally did the right thing by exchanging my
Oulaw with a new Slammer--strait up!!
Curt
Phil: Please print this side of the story on
your website. IronHorse happens to be not only the best manufacturer of Custom
production bikes, but the best in customer relations.
John Visco
Iron Core Custom Motorcycles (formerly Easyriders of Va Beach)
IronCoreCustom.com viscorp@aol.com 757-631-1443
John, Your email was a real surprise, I am
impressed that you took the time to offer to help Curt, even though he was not
your customer. And now that we know after ten months American Iron Horse has
made good to resolve the problem. Did you intercede with AIH in Curt's behalf?
Phil Floria Editor,Webmaster, Head Water Boy, Biker eNews
Living and Riding, Free in Hampton Roads VA.
Curt, Please tell me how the it came about? I
had challenged a local dealer to intercede on your behalf, and before I give
him credit I need to know if he did anything to help. Your first email to me
was in Sept. 02, it took ten months for them to finally make good, I don't call
that "the Best Customer Relations in the business". However I am glad for you
that your happy and back in the wind again. The bike looks awesome.
Phil Floria Editor,Webmaster, Head Water Boy, Biker eNews
Living and Riding, Free in Hampton Roads VA
Phil:
No I did not do anything directly in
Curts case other than offer him assistance. I knew IronHorse would not let him
down because I have never seen them do that in the three years we have been
doing business with then. They have stood behind every issue we have ever had.
They are a great company. As you may or may not know, we have had several other
franchises we no longer do business with, for precisely the customer
satisfaction issue. That is why American IronHorse is still our main franchise.
John Visco Iron Core Custom Motorcycles (formerly Easyriders of
Va Beach) IronCoreCustom.com viscorp@aol.com 757-631-1443
The following is Curt's answer to my
email:
After a month of red tape, AIH authorized
another dealer to do the warrantee work. The bike went into the shop October
22, 2002.
That same week I was in Florida (wife's
gift to me for my fortieth b-day) and went to Daytona to check out
Biketoberfest. While there, I stood in front of the AIH dealer display at the
speedway and had handouts made of all of the problems I was having and gave
them out to anyone who would take them (I think I passed out around 35).
After 20 minutes of handouts, a red Dodge
pickup showed up with a security guard and two guys wearing AIH t-shirts. One
of them was the company president, Tim Edmondson. He was pissed and told me
that I was handling the matter the wrong way. Security asked me to leave then
Edmondson told me that when he returned to Texas he would call me to resolve
the matter.
January rolled around and I never got a
call. The dealer doing the repairs was still waiting on parts and not getting
much cooperation from AIH. I decided to hire a lawyer. The lawyer talked big at
first, thinking all he had to do was send a couple of nasty letters to get
cooperation.
AIH sent the wrong parts 3 times. The
first time the dealer wanted to send the front fender (recall the problems I
was having with the rear fender) so the factory could match paint. AIH assured
us that the paint information needed was all on a computer and that they could
easily match the paint.
The first fender came back and was not
even close. Furthermore, AIH did not include the taillight and turn signals
with the fender. 3 more fenders were sent, the third was CLOSE to a match, but
not exact. When it's your toy--and it cost 3 Gr to paint, it has to be exact.
While the parts debacle continued, deals
between my lawyer and AIH went on. It was May when I took my bike out of the
shop--paint not exact. I rode the bike 50 miles, never with a passenger, and
the fender cracked and one of the bolts broke again. My lawyer was giving up
because his letters weren't working and he wasn't too crazy about a lawsuit.
The shop that did the work did not want to see my bike again because they never
got paid from the work they did earlier.
I was planning another rally visit to the
AIH display, and then decided to try calling them myself one last time. When I
called, it was like I was talking to a completely different company. They were
asking me what I wanted to do. I told them since they could not match paint I
wanted all new sheet metal (black-no logo) 3 Gr refund for the paint job, 1500
for my lawyer, and to pay the shop that did my warrantee work. They said no
problem and told me it would be about a week to get it all together.
THEY started calling me and giving me
updates. Then I noticed two primary cover bolts stripped out and fluid was
leaking. I was certain that my bike was going to continue to give me heartburn
so I called them and told them I was fed up. The next day I got a call from Don
Wilson.
Don asked me what it would take to make me
happy. He also told me that these are "Hot Rod" bikes that vibrate like a MF
and some of the problems are part of owning this kind of machine. He was
dealing with other customers with similar problems. (Maybe they should re-think
their warranty) I told him if all of his motorcycles were the same as the one I
bought, I wanted my money back. If he thought I got a lemon that doesn't
represent all of their bikes, an exchange would be fine. He told me to look for
a dealer in my area and give him a call.
I found a dealer within 120 miles. They
had an Outlaw, the same model I was returning, but it was white-a color I
didn't want. They also had a Slammer-listing for about 6 Gr more than the
Outlaw. He was reluctant to trade for the Slammer, but after I told him about
license, insurance, lawyer fees, etc. he agreed that the exchange would be a
better business decision. We agreed that an exchange would work.
I had to haul the old bike to the dealer
and take care of my lawyer cost. The shop that did the work got paid and now
has about six AIH riders as customers. The former AIH dealer in Omaha no longer
carries the brand. They are struggling. If they would have serviced my first
bike in a timely manner, none of this would have happened. I have heard of
other customers getting exchanges.
The dealer you spoke about did contact me.
I'm not sure if they took any action on my behalf, they were genuinely
concerned.
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